Jason Eich is a multi-location auto repair shop owner based in Evansville, Indiana. After spending more than two decades in a corporate career, Jason made an unexpected leap into independent auto repair ownership; a move that eventually led to operating multiple successful shops. Drawing from his background in leadership, discipline shaped by his time in the Marines, and hands-on experience scaling operations, Jason brings a grounded, real-world perspective on what it truly takes to grow an auto repair business.

In this episode…

Growth is often the goal for shop owners but knowing how to grow an auto repair business beyond a single location is where many hit a wall. Expansion isn’t just about opening another shop or increasing car count. It requires a fundamental shift in leadership, mindset, and structure.

Jason Eich explains that real growth begins when owners stop forcing the same systems everywhere and start building operations that fit their local markets. From customer loyalty and geography to staffing and traffic patterns, Jason shares why understanding market dynamics is critical when scaling an auto repair business.

On this episode of Gain Traction, Mike Edge sits down with Jason Eich to unpack the transition from operator to owner. Jason outlines the leadership changes required to grow sustainably, why developing managers is non-negotiable, and how having hard conversations early creates clarity and accountability. His insights offer a clear roadmap for shop owners who want to grow faster without sacrificing culture or stability.

Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn: 

[01:09] Jason Eich’s background and path into auto repair ownership

[04:23] How a casual conversation led to buying his first auto repair shop

[07:33] What surprised Jason most about the auto repair industry

[08:48] How Jason’s Marine Corps experience shaped his leadership style

[11:59] Why running a shop isn’t always about fixing cars

[13:52] Jason’s perspective on right to repair and access to OEM data

[17:25] How Jason approaches growth beyond two locations

[20:03] The mindset shift from operator to business owner

[22:48] The leadership principle Jason lives by

[23:54] The best way to handle hard conversations as an owner

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Jason Eich LinkedIn
• Eich Brothers Automotive Website
• Dartt Automotive Website
• Tread Partners
• Gain Traction Podcast on YouTube
• Gain Traction Podcast Website
• Mike Edge on LinkedIn

Quotable Moments:

• “Growth doesn’t mean being in every bay, it means building people you trust.”
• “Cars don’t fix themselves, and neither do problems in your business.”
• “If you want to scale, you have to stop forcing one system everywhere.”
• “Leadership means owning the outcome and having the hard conversations.”
• “Structure and accountability are what make growth sustainable.”

Action Steps:

1. Evaluate your readiness to scale: Ask whether your shop can operate without you in the day-to-day.
2. Build managers before expanding: Growth stalls quickly without leadership in place.
3. Adapt systems to local markets: Geography, loyalty, and traffic patterns matter.
4. Have hard conversations early: Clarity prevents bigger problems later.
5. Shift from operator to owner mindset: Work on the business, not just in it.

• Automotive Industry
• Dartt Automotive
• Eich Brothers Automotive
• Gain Traction Podcast
• Jason Eich
• Right to Repair
• Tread Partners

Transcript

00:00
Speaker 1
Be authentic, own the outcome, have the hard conversations. It doesn’t mean it’s easy and sometimes it is uncomfortable. It’s not just a mantra, it’s a set of goals to live up to. Is that, you know, I will repeat that to my kids and then it will happen that something will walk in the door that I have to deal with that I don’t want to. And I’ve got to remind myself I need to have this conversation.

00:24
Speaker 2
Welcome to the Gain Traction Podcast, the official podcast for tire business. I am Mike Edge, your host and I have the privilege of interviewing the tire dealers, shop owners, counter sales reps, technicians, industry executives and other thought leaders of our industry. This episode is brought to you by Tread Partners. Tread Partners is the leading digital marketing agency that specializes in digital marketing for multi location tire and auto repair shops. Tread Partners works with clients that have hundreds of locations, down to five locations. Get a professional, unbiased opinion and let Tread Partners review what you’re doing. It starts with a simple conversation. To contact Tread Partners, visit treadpartners.com so let’s get started. Hey folks. Welcome to the Gain Traction Podcast, the official podcast for tire business. My guest today is Jason Eich with two stores in Evansville, Indiana, Eich Brothers Automotive and Dart Automotive.

01:16
Speaker 2
Jason, welcome to the Gain Traction podcast.

01:19
Speaker 1
Thank you, Mike. It’s great to be here, man.

01:22
Speaker 2
You don’t, you and I don’t live very far apart, so it was pretty cool to get to meet you. Personally, I don’t get to do that a lot with my, you know, guests that are coming on the, the show and so it was fun and I appreciate you taking me to your club there. It was awesome. But tell us a little bit about you because, you know, as you and I got to know each other, this wasn’t on your radar. I mean, you just, first of all, where’d you grow up?

01:49
Speaker 1
Yeah, so I grew up in Clarksville, Indiana, which is literally, you know, like right across the river from Louisville, Kentucky. And my entire life I, I wanted to do one thing and that was join the Marines. And unfortunately, or fortunately, my dad had one goal and it was he is to go to college. And so that was the deal was I did join the Marines. I joined the marine reserve so that I could go to college. And so when I got out of, you know, boot camp and training and things like that, I went to Evansville to go to school and I, and I never moved home. I stayed there and you know, even to the, even to this day.

02:30
Speaker 2
And, and it’s a, hey, Evansville’s a good town and it’s not that far from Clarksville. I mean, technically, you just right across 64. Yeah.

02:38
Speaker 1
You know, but I don’t know what it was about my hometown, but I mean, you know, so I went to the University of Southern Indiana and that was a massively growing university that was out in the country. And that appealed to me is because, you know, it wasn’t an urban school, it was out in the country. And I could see myself, you know, like biking or running or out there and, you know, I wanted to get away and they had great on campus housing. We had apartments, not dorms. And so that was another selling point. So we made a home there, man.

03:09
Speaker 2
So now you did. And then. But yeah, you speaking of us, I mean, it’s like it’s not in the country anymore. Let’s just say that it’s just, it’s ridiculous.

03:19
Speaker 1
Division one school now.

03:20
Speaker 2
Yeah, it’s.

03:20
Speaker 1
It’s Division one. And they’re going to be in competition. I think they’re. That probationary period or whatever when you go Division one is ending. And so if it’s not this year, next year it will be. You know, hopefully we see them on the, on during March Madness someday.

03:36
Speaker 2
Oh, absolutely. That’s awesome. And so you. Then, then I found out you had worked. We had a mutual friend. You work for red spot paint, which is, it’s, Is it strictly industrial paint.

03:47
Speaker 1
Or is it across the paint, chemicals, specialty coatings mostly for the automotive industry. But a lot of. They had, they’ve had a long history of coding solutions, functional codings for a lot of industries. Apple Computer, you know, things like that, even, you know, home appliances. But yeah, I had a, I worked there over 20 years. They hired me right out of college to be a production supervisor. And then I just grew and grew and got into R and D as a project manager. And that kind of led to. Your original question is I was sitting at a local repair shop getting tires and an oil change one day, and the owner, who I knew very well, went to church together, comes around the bar and says, hey, you ever thought of a career change?

04:34
Speaker 1
And I was like, I don’t know, what do you got in mind? He’s, why don’t you buy this place from me? And three months later we did.

04:42
Speaker 2
Oh, I love it, man.

04:45
Speaker 1
Should have been crazy.

04:46
Speaker 2
Yeah, you know, you love it, though. You’ve done such a great job with both stores and so you, you owned one for how long before you went? About the second.

04:56
Speaker 1
About six years. Yeah, we bought our second shop at about the six year mark. It was a very similar deal we had. We’d been introduced to the owner and his wife. They were wanting to retire. And our connection with our local Napa owners had connected us there and we’d struck up a conversation about their exit plan and our interest in that. And then Covid hit and. And that killed everything. I mean, everyone just kind of like pulled back. We stopped talking to the family. We’re just concentrating on our business. And when all that kind of blew over, I. I reached out to him. He’s like, man, I’ve been thinking about you. Let’s get together and place. And that’s another one. Three months later it was over. You know, we owned it so well.

05:41
Speaker 2
And for our guests sake, because they don’t understand if they don’t know Evansville. But Evansville is a unique city. It has what, about 250, 000 metro areas?

05:53
Speaker 1
Yeah. Maybe more with the county.

05:55
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. But then you’ve got this great dividing line called east and west there. So you bought a store one side and a store on the other and they don’t function the same. And I think audiences. I think, I think it’d be for our audience to hear because a lot of listeners are owners and they probably have that same dilemma. And I think speak to that a little bit. The personnel only.

06:19
Speaker 1
We are only by car, maybe 12 or 15 minutes apart. But you have to cross Main street to get in Evansville, to get from one shop to the other. And for the community that has been born and raised on the west side of Evansville, Main street may as well be the Grand Canyon with no bridge. They’re not interested in crossing Main street for anything at all. And I think I gave you the example is we can answer the phone on the east side and say, Ms. Jones, I can get you in right now on our west side location. They say, sure, shoot me the address. West side, you’d say, you say Ms. Jones and say, hey, I can’t. I can get you in today on the east side. No, I’m not going there. I mean, it’s just like that.

06:59
Speaker 1
It’s just not going to happen. They don’t cross Maine. It’s a very conservative German Catholic community. Great people. I mean, they are so passionate and loyal about local business and the high schools. I mean, they go four generations deep out of football games and Wrestling, you know, and they win and they don’t go to school there and they’re still.

07:22
Speaker 2
Going as the 49 year olds and they’re winners. They, they win. Not every year, but you know what I mean? It’s frequent. It’s.

07:29
Speaker 1
They go deep.

07:30
Speaker 2
Yes. Yeah.

07:31
Speaker 1
So it’s been hard, it has been hard to move the needle from a marketing standpoint is because our west side location is. We’re only seeing 7,8000 cars a day at that location, you know, for, from a traff flow standpoint, as opposed to 35,000 on the east side. So we have to bring people to us on the west side and you know, and I mean, you’re just trying everything to move the needle and the. But they don’t change. I mean, if you’ve been going to Munsterman’s on Franklin street for 20 years, your kids are going to Munsterman’s too, and you’re. And they’re not going to give Dart Automotive a try. And likewise, we have very loyal customers that they’re not going to go to another shop because they’ve their dad. You know, I mean, Dart’s been there for 45 years and they’re extremely brand loyal.

08:24
Speaker 1
So it’s a blessing and a curse. It’s a blessing that we’ve got loyal customers and their families are loyal and they trust us that it is very difficult to get new customers in there, especially if we’re trying to pull from the west side. We can pull east side customers there. But marketing challenge for sure.

08:42
Speaker 2
It’s, it’s, it’s going to be interesting. Well, first of all, thanks for your service. How so you said, how long did you serve as a Marine?

08:52
Speaker 1
So interestingly, it sounded very simple that I joined, you know, I joined the Marines, I went to boot camp, I went to training and I come back to go to college. But in between there, in that same breath, is the Gulf War kicked off. And so we got called up for Desert Storm and sent to Camp Lejeune and then elsewhere from there. So. So you were deployed? I was expecting, yes, I was expecting. I did not go, I did not go to Saudi Arabia. You know, weren’t fully trained when we got pulled up. And so we deployed with our unit and went to Camp Lejeune for, you know, for additional training to get ready to go to war. But I hadn’t been to school infantry yet. And so they pulled eight of us out, all eight lifelong friends to this day.

09:38
Speaker 1
And they Sent us to school, infantry, and then the unit went to Saudi Arabia. And it was always the plan is that were going to be, you know, were going to meet back up. They would send us over to meet up. But the Gulf war ended and so we ended up doing all our entire time either in school or on Camp Lejeune. They just found jobs for us. I mean, they were like, I don’t know what we’re going to do with you all. You don’t have a unit, your unit’s overseas. So they put us to work wherever they could find spots. Yeah, so. So were gone. We were gone quite a while. And then I got to come back and go to college. And then here we are.

10:13
Speaker 2
That’s awesome.

10:14
Speaker 1
Well, I tell people I got to see the very best of the Marine Corps. I got to scratch that itch. I got to do everything. I got to go to Parris Island. I got to do everything that I. That I wanted to do. And other than the uncertainty of the war and what’s going on, I’ve never been in harm’s way. I had great people that surrounded me the entire time, made great friends, and it really kind of def. Who I am my entire life.

10:40
Speaker 2
Man. That’s awesome. Well, I appreciate it. My son in law is a marine. You don’t say was a marine. I understand that now because once. Once one always won and I think that’s cool. But you’ve got a brother. Is he a partner with you? Is that right?

10:58
Speaker 1
He is, yeah, he is.

10:59
Speaker 2
And did he have an automotive background?

11:03
Speaker 1
No, not. Not like that. I mean, people say automotive. Well, yeah, we sell paint and coatings to the autom industry. That’s not a repair background. He worked for Hoosier, which made wheels for automotive. But no, we didn’t. We. We didn’t know what the hell.

11:17
Speaker 2
Yeah, but Hoosier was a west side company, right?

11:20
Speaker 1
Yes, it was. It was. So, so, you know, but we, I would tell you that were enthusiasts. My dad was. My dad was that definitely, you know, that 60s muscle car guy. And. And to this day he’s got several, you know, 60s muscle cars in the garage. And so we grew up around that. Going to cruise ins. And you might remember Carl ca custom auto show that used to travel and you go up to the fairgrounds in Louisville to see that. And so we’ve been enthusiast. It seemed like a natural transition because we loved cars so much. We had no idea that is a completely different world than daily auto repair. Hey, what a shock.

12:01
Speaker 2
Okay, so you Shared with me. You shared with me earlier, and I love the story you were telling me, because talk about a shocker. But, you know, you go from repairing cars you want to repair to, like, this lady that came in your store you told me about. One of this is, yeah, man.

12:19
Speaker 1
And in those days, were doing everything, you know, we would.

12:22
Speaker 2
We.

12:23
Speaker 1
We. We would check you in and we would. Might. We were just doing whatever we could to keep the wheel turning, whether we’re putting brakes or tires on your car or whatever. And so I was talking to this lady, I’m checking her in, and she says, Jason, she says, man, I think I’ve got a cat or animal stuck in my car. And I hear it, and when I go over bumps, it makes it very angry. I’ll never forget that she was adamant about that. She goes, it gets very angry when I go over bumps. And I said, that’s fine. Give me the keys. I’ll take it for a drive. And I take it and I hear it, and it sounds like a cat. And she was right. Like, when you hit bumps or went over railroad tracks, it was making a lot of noise.

12:57
Speaker 1
So we pulled it in, and it’s coming from the rear of the vehicle. And I opened the trunk, and it was a stuffed animal, like a Tickle Me Elmo, but a cat. And something was laying on it. And every time you’d hit a bump, it would meow like crazy. And we got such a laugh out of that because I wish you could have heard her and seen her face. Jason. When I hit bumps, she. It gets so angry. And. And it was a. It was a dag off stuffed animal.

13:23
Speaker 2
I love it. It’s angry. Yes. Oh, that’s priceless. I bet you she was, hey, that’s a quick, easy fix. Just take it for a drive.

13:33
Speaker 1
And it was, give this back to your daughter. You know, it’s. It’s going to be okay. So. But, you know, we. We. We have pulled animals out of cars over time. Squirrels, a squirrel’s nest. We have had cats, you know, caught up, especially in the winter, in the engine. It wasn’t an unreasonable request. I just didn’t expect to find a stuffed toy.

13:51
Speaker 2
So I absolutely love that. I’m just curious. You guys are automotive and, you know, both your stores have been around a long time. Are you familiar with right to repair and what’s going on with that?

14:05
Speaker 1
Yes, we are good. Yes, we are good. And I’ll be honest, I just had this conversation with some other shop owners is we absolutely want access To OE procedure and to be able to program cars and have their repair information. But I’m okay with paying for it. And I might differ from some of my peers is I am for anything that allows us to showcase our expertise. It is okay for me if we have to buy a reasonably priced subscription to have access to. For gm, Chrysler, whoever that is, just give me access. Because if I can do. Because we bring value when we can do this work. If someone else can’t and the other trades did that, you can’t go buy H Vac parts for your house. You have to have a license to do that. They that industry locked up the parts.

15:04
Speaker 1
Electricians. Electricians have to have a license. And you know, I mean, you could do your own electrical work, but I mean, really to meet code and to get permits, you got to be, you know, you got to be a licensed electrician. We don’t have that protection in our industry. And so if this is a barrier that allows us to flourish in that environment, I’m all for it. Just give us access.

15:25
Speaker 2
Yeah. And. Well, that’s the big thing. I don’t think the OEs want to give the access they like. But at the same time, what’s crazy about it is they can’t handle, let’s say, for instance, they put every independent out of business. They can’t even handle. They couldn’t handle the customers. So it blows my mind that we’re in this debate, but I always want to bring it up when I can. And I hope listeners will, you know, write their congressman, call their congressmen, senators, et cetera. We’ve got to get right to repair passed and this bullying from the OEs to stop because the idea that they can control everything is just. And I also take, I think it takes away from the, you know, the American dream of owning your own business. And everything’s, you know, it’s like migrating to the top again.

16:11
Speaker 2
It’s going to be controlled by a few instead of the many.

16:15
Speaker 1
It’s worse today than it’s ever been because the aftermarket is only getting us so far in terms of parts. We are reliant more and more on complex systems that require programming parts, that the dealer part is just better. We’re installing more dealer parts than ever. And so we need all that excess. You know, I mean, it’s one thing to get the park. We need to know how it comes apart, how it needs to go back together, what needs to be calibrated when we’re done or reset. And it’s all of that. I mean a shameless plug. You know, we’re Napa Gold Auto Care Center. Both our locations are. And Napa is in front of this too. And then we’re also a member of the NFIB and they are a massive lobby. They’re a massive lobby for us on this.

17:02
Speaker 1
And every time they send me something on right to repair, I respond, it might be a send this to your congressman right now. They make it real easy and you can click. Oh yeah, it will blanket them all with letters. And I would tell people, get involved, your vote’s your voice. And, and that’s our mechanism up, you know, through our legislature.

17:23
Speaker 2
That’s awesome. I’m glad you said that. So, you know, you’re running two stores now. What are you, do you have growth plans? I mean, do you want to grow beyond two?

17:33
Speaker 1
Yeah, we, we absolutely are working on a shop three right now. We’ve got a couple shop owners that are in that retirement age and we just not got to. Yes. Yet. But we are absolutely looking for a third, if not a fourth shop. Between my brother and I, we’ve got three, three kids that work for us. So we feel like we’ve got room to spread the Eichs out a little bit, you know, to handle a larger operation. And, and we’ve also built our two shops. They’re, they both have shop managers. They’re, they’re pretty much self running and so we think we’re ready. We thought were ready when we didn’t know anything about auto repair too. Right. And we jumped right in. So. But now we’re hoping to buy if not in, if not at the end, by the end of this year.

18:19
Speaker 1
We’re absolutely looking for a third shop.

18:21
Speaker 2
So is your kiddos, is your objective for the third shop to be within the kind of the metro market the other two are in or do you want to step out of that or. You know what I mean?

18:32
Speaker 1
Not necessarily. I mean so if I could stay within an hour or so of Evansville, that would be nice.

18:41
Speaker 2
Yeah.

18:42
Speaker 1
But I talked to a shop owner yesterday that his growth plan he’s wanting to chase, he’s about retirement age but he’s a multiple shop owner and he’s looking for more and he’s wanting that fourth or fifth shop somewhere where he is going to retire or vacation. And so he’s thinking it’s fine if that’s up north because he wants to Go north when it’s hot. And if I’ve got a repair shop up there, it gives me purpose. Or if it’s in the south where it’s warm, that works too, because that’s where I’m heading in the winter. And I thought that made sense to me that he’s planning his roof around his.

19:16
Speaker 2
That’s. No, but it is kind of cool because, you know, we all know the people that retire, they do. I mean, they lose a purpose, right? I mean, especially if you worked at a facility like, let’s say Red Spot for instance, where you were once you leave there’s no way to kind of stay involved. And I think that’s cool when you get an independent business owner that recognizes that, hey, yeah, I wanna retire, I wanna sell off the biggest part of my nuggets here or whatever. But I, at the same time, I, I’d like to still get a store operational, manage itself, but I get to tinker with it and make sure that it runs and do my part, etc. But I, I like that.

19:55
Speaker 2
I mean, I think, you know, yeah, you shouldn’t have to work as hard, but why give it up completely if you don’t want to?

20:01
Speaker 1
You know, I think it’s a mindset issue for a lot of shop owners is we have went from having to do absolutely everything from mopping befores and changing light bulbs, you know, to writing checks. And today our shops run themselves and it really does allow us to work on our business. We can take deep dives into data and work with our vendors. Even a big part of my job is marketing. Marketing. And so you got to have that mindset that growth doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m going to be the face in the day to day in that shop. Actually, that’s not my plan at all. It’s to have another shop and to have it run the way our two existing shops do.

20:42
Speaker 1
And then truth is, if at all, you know, if I hit the lottery, meaning, you know, I mean, my kids are running it and I’m still involved, but I’m listening and maybe giving them some direction or some guidance and it becomes more strategic. But how do you get from that doing everything? I mean, most shop owners built that business themselves from the ground up and they know every customer and they shook their hand and they looked them in their eyes and it’s not easy for them to break away to be more of an executive or a CEO of their organization that has to rely on other people. To do all them things for them. And we’ve been able to make that transition.

21:20
Speaker 2
And I do believe you touched on something that’s probably one of the hardest things for any entrepreneur to do. I’ve done a pipe podcast with some younger generations taking over their father’s company, but father’s still involved. And, you know, they’ll just tell you we butt heads, you know, because dad still wants to be involved in every detail and he can’t pull himself out of it, but he’s doing better. But it’s like a. It’s just this. He’s. He’s glued in, you know, it’s just these ways wired. And it is always interesting to see the skill set of a second generation take their company, you know, to another level, because their viewpoint’s different, you know, and. And they weren’t in the weeds as much.

22:00
Speaker 2
But I think it’s cool that you’ve recognized that even before passing it on, that, hey, I’ve gotta pull back and I’ve gotta. I gotta create managers and educate them and bring them up. So well done on that. Congratulations.

22:15
Speaker 1
I’m anxious to see what our kids can do with it. Yeah, I really am. I. I think my daughter, if we can get her. If we can get her to. I mean, family business is tough and she doesn’t work in the business now, but if we could get her involved, she’s going to rock her cousins, I can tell you that now. I mean, she is very driven, and she might make us uncomfortable with the pace of change and growth, but, man, what a neat time that might be.

22:39
Speaker 2
Oh, heck, yeah. That’s awesome. It’s awesome that you recognize that, too. Well, on a more personal level, let’s talk about some personal things. I always like to ask people some questions. What’s a code mantra quote that you like to live by or something somebody.

22:53
Speaker 1
Giving you, man, probably the most meaningful, the one that I’ve got on my whiteboard in my office, it’s three sentences. It’s be authentic, own the outcome, have the hard conversations. And that just spoke to me early in this path because when we do those three things, it all works out every time. And it doesn’t mean it’s easy and sometimes it is uncomfortable, but it always works out. When we do, when we’re authentic, when we’re, you know, when we own that and, you know, wherever that falls, you’ve got to own it. But then you can’t shy away from those conversations. And that’s also a Set of goals.

23:40
Speaker 1
It’s not just a mantra, it’s a set of goals to live up to, is that, you know, I will repeat that to my kids and then it will happen that something will walk in the door that I have to deal with that I don’t want to. And I’ve got to remind myself I need to have this conversation.

23:54
Speaker 2
It, it reminds me of a quote that I heard one time and it was, might have been my brother, but were talking about faith and religion and everything. And you know, one of the things that seems like that people get confused that, you know, they want to be nice, they want to be charitable or whatever. And I, I love this quote and I don’t know where it came from, but clarity is charity, you know, and we’ve got to be clear with people in order to be more authentic. And if we’re not clear, you know, willing to have those hard conversations, it gets worse. I mean, that’s the reality. And, and if we’re upfront with people, and that means being upfront with ourselves before we even have that conversation, hey, this is an issue, this is a problem.

24:36
Speaker 2
And for the sake of the rest of the team, I’ve got to address it with this person or even if it’s just a personal issue with you, one one with somebody, instead of just sitting there stewing over it, go address it. Have a clear conversation.

24:50
Speaker 1
Cars never fix themselves. That noise never gets better. It always gets worse. But it’s the same thing in business is they don’t go away, they don’t get better on their own. At some point you have to deal with it. And truth is, it’s not easy being an owner. It’s not easy being an owner in a family owned business either. We have all of that, all of those dynamics going on, but they don’t fix themselves. And, and sometimes you’ve got to be an owner. And not everybody can do that.

25:19
Speaker 2
No.

25:20
Speaker 1
And really, until you try, you don’t know if you can or not. We’ve, we’ve managed to make it work for 10 years. So I mean, I like our chances, but brother, there were times, I mean there, there were times where you don’t. Yeah, I mean, we hear, we have woke people. My brother and I in the early years, woke people up around us when were arguing and they got, you know, and ended with the hug. Man, I love you. I think you’re wrong, but I love you.

25:47
Speaker 2
She’s still wrong. Real quick on a fun note, before we leave what’s your favorite movie?

25:54
Speaker 1
Gone in 60 seconds. Whether I will watch 10 minutes of that every time that it’s on. Well, you know, TBS or USA or.

26:02
Speaker 2
You know, there are.

26:03
Speaker 1
It’s like on Endless Loop. And I don’t know what it is about that movie. I mean, Nicholas Cage is a great actor. Maybe it’s the car. He, you know, he doesn’t.

26:13
Speaker 2
He’s not great in every role he plays, but that was designed for him. That was a great role for him. And there’s no cooler name for a car thief than Memphis Reigns. I mean, Memphis Reigns.

26:24
Speaker 1
Yeah. I think what’s neat is it’s. The movie is kind of symbolic. It was of that unattainable goal. Right. He could never steal that car. Something always went wrong. Eleanor and Eleanor. Yeah. So, yeah. And. But he did it.

26:42
Speaker 2
He did it.

26:43
Speaker 1
So I don’t know. I love that movie.

26:44
Speaker 2
I love, I love it when he finally gets that last car there and he’s trying to save his brother’s life and he goes, he had banged it up a little bit. He goes, okay. He goes, the mirror. He goes, we can fix this.

26:53
Speaker 1
A couple little touch, a little bit of pain. Yeah, yeah.

26:56
Speaker 2
Anyway, that was great, but I thank you for being on here. It’s been, I was really looking forward to interviewing you and I knew you’d be an awesome guest, so I really appreciate it.

27:04
Speaker 1
It’s my pleasure, man. I, I love talking shop. I love shop owners. That has been the byproduct of the freedom that our business has given us is it’s let us connect with some really neat people and we get to do what we love every day.

27:21
Speaker 2
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